[politics]

"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction) 09/22/2020 at 14:45 • Filed to: None

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The former [redacted] presidential candidate has helped raise more than $20 million so that felons who completed their prison sentences can vote in the presidential election [ by paying off their fines, restitution, and/or court fees ]. [Redacted] also has pledged $100 million to help [redacted] win Florida.

Both of these two sentences, on their own, are perfectly fine, but as soon as you put them together, and the same person is doing both, how is this not just buying votes, political affiliation aside?

And if you could care less... best personalized plate for an SS?

AUSSIE, SSLEEPR, and GDAY are taken.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 14:48

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The same reason why bribing is illegal but lobbying is legal.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 09/22/2020 at 14:49

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yep

Future next gen S2000 owner > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 14:50

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SS CLONE

Which is a bit ironic considering you can’t clone as SS.

Nothing > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 14:53

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I am not witty enough for personalized plates, but congrats on the SS! That’s going to be an awesome ride, and I look forward to hearing about it.

Jb boin > Future next gen S2000 owner 09/22/2020 at 14:55

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SS clone... i sn’t it the plot of some of the  Wolfenstein games? and some Marvel movie as well?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Nothing 09/22/2020 at 14:56

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Thanks! I could probably never bring myself to actually get one, but it is fun to think about.

With my 8600 redline in my M3, I liked RPM2BPM.

7:07 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 14:56

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SSLOW

PANCAKESS

SSPOOPY

That’s it.  I’m fresh out of excellent ideas.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > 7:07 09/22/2020 at 14:58

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SSLOW is taken...

E90M3 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 14:59

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Really are no miles on that car at all. 

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 14:59

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D Z N TZ (as in HOLDEN DEEZ NUTZ)

CAPRICE

CRWN VIC

CAMRY

7:07 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:00

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SSLOOW

More Os is more better.

VincentMalamute-Kim > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:01

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If both sentences are OK by themselves, then they’re OK together. But unfortunate optics.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > E90M3 09/22/2020 at 15:02

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Yep!

CivicWagonEngineer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:03

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I don’t want to rain on your parade at all, the SS is an awesome car and I really want one in the near future, BUT why are people obsessed with putting Holden Badges on them? Looks tacky IMO

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:03

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STRALIA

as in instead of ‘ Murica it is ‘Stralia.

DED BRND

Too soon

LHD

Clever but obvious

CHEBBY

Clever but obvious

Nothing > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:03

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About as close as I think I’ll get to anything special for plates, I’m going to pick up some vintage stamped Colorado 1968 plates that I’ll be able to use on the Mustang. Technically, they’re only supposed to be used when going to a cruise, parade, or show, but isn’t every drive in a classic car a cruise?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 09/22/2020 at 15:04

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CAPRICE is good!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > 7:07 09/22/2020 at 15:05

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Available! As is SSLOOOW - ha!

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:05

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A better question is “why are felons not allowed to vote?”

If a felon is unable to vote until they have paid a fine/restitution, isn’t that just a poll tax?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > 7:07 09/22/2020 at 15:06

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SSLOWLY is available.

Spanfeller is a twat > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:06

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I’m inclined to believe that it is hard to have both the intention to help people register to vote and also be a candidate (See Stacey Abrams ), but I can understand why it isn’t that controversial when you consider how hard it is to register to vote in some American states, and how those restrictions sometimes (especially since the weakening of the voting rights act) happen to affect some communities more intensely than others. For those attempts to involve money seems almost inevitable in America’s bizarre voting system.

I n the case of Florida, there was a ballot measure to allow ex-convicts to vote, and as far as I’ve understood said ballot measure wasn’t applied because of a court decision.

Certainly, most of the people that would be registered would probably vote for the person that helped them register... but it’s kind of politicking at this point... It’s controversial, for sure, but also, these people have a right to vote and to be represented yet maybe they don’t have the right guidance or tools to do so.

Contextualized with increasingly tighter voting registration laws, I think this awkward situation is inevitable, but also not the more controversial of the two.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Future next gen S2000 owner 09/22/2020 at 15:06

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Irony is good.

facw > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:07

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Because the former felons are free to vote for whoever they want.  

Merkin Muffley > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:07

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Hey!

How dare you question authority... the election is never over until all the deceased have voted.

LBJ used to joke about all the elections he'd won where the "the late votes came in" from Jim Hogg County down in deepest deep Dem Texas.  The votes were LITERALLY "late" .

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > facw 09/22/2020 at 15:08

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Yes, no obligation, of course, but who would you vote for if some dude wiped out a bunch of your debt (if you voted at all)?

CobraJoe > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/22/2020 at 15:10

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It’s also worth noting that paying off fines to allow someone to vote does not guarantee a vote for the person paying.

Free will is a fickle thing.  

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/22/2020 at 15:10

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An equally valid question, for sure, but if one’s debt to society is both time and monetary...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Nothing 09/22/2020 at 15:11

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I’m on the way to a cruise, officer...

next month.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/22/2020 at 15:11

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ROOHNTR

Many complaints will follow

MonkeePuzzle > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:11

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for a pontiac holden you’ll want a license plate that can be read upsidedown or right side up

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Nothing 09/22/2020 at 15:11

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Current OK plates are pretty bad, so I did get the OG OK flag plate on my M3.

PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:12

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V8 IMP

DWNUNDR

RENTAL

I’ll try and think of more

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/22/2020 at 15:12

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‘STRALIA’s funny.

facw > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:13

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Sure but it is not paying someone to vote for a specific candidate. It’s a bit unseemly, but I don’t think it’s any more unseemly than say news networks selling ad sl ots to politicians they cover.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CivicWagonEngineer 09/22/2020 at 15:14

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I love ‘em. It is a Holden, so why not badge it the way they built it?

Same reason I’d want Subaru badges on a 86.

Anyone p ut a BMW badge on a Supra yet? LOL

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:14

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Sweet!

MUSASHI66 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:14

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GDAYM8

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 09/22/2020 at 15:15

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Thanks!

Darkbrador > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:15

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A guy in my ‘hood has the plate reading “GEIGHT”. Kinda too easy , though.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > facw 09/22/2020 at 15:15

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Yes, plenty of grime to go around, if not actually crime.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:16

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Punitive and restorative fines can exist without disenfranchisement.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 09/22/2020 at 15:17

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DWNUNDR is good!

DGRIDOO?

WilliamsSW > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:17

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Spelled STRAYA I think

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MUSASHI66 09/22/2020 at 15:18

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Good one! And... taken.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/22/2020 at 15:18

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I agree.

WilliamsSW > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:18

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NOT A BU

(Someone right near me has this on his SS)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MonkeePuzzle 09/22/2020 at 15:19

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SSSSSSS

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/22/2020 at 15:20

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I’ve seen it written also as STRAYA, an option, but likely to be misinterpreted.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:21

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How many letters do you get?

HOLDEN (or HOLDN or some other abbreviation)

STRAYA

BONZA

SMRNATS (summernats- look it up)

CMDORE

DUNDEE

CROC

Also: if spending money is free speech, spending it to buy votes is free speech too, amirite ?

Ermahgerd! > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:22

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Some Aussie words and s lang for your consideration:

DINGO

SHEILA (slang for woman)

STRAYA (slang for Austr alia)

BOTTLER (slang for something excellent)

BA TH RST or B TH RST   1K (reference to the Bath urst 1000, Australia’s most important car rac e )

DWN UNDR

HOOROO (slang for goodbye)

LARRIK N (Larrikin - slang for a bloke who’s always enjoying himself, harmless prankster )

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:23

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That is my pick. As LimitedTimeOnly said, it could also be STRAYA but probably not as easy to “get.”

I saw the vanity plate GR8 PL8S recently and I laughed out loud. 

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:23

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DROPBEAR

MUSASHI66 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:23

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AussieSS

OZ SS

OZ SSV

BadOZZ

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > WilliamsSW 09/22/2020 at 15:26

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Nice!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MUSASHI66 09/22/2020 at 15:28

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Ooh... I have a dog name OZZIE, after Ozzie Smith.

Good double (triple) meaning. And it’s red!

MUSASHI66 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:30

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Well there you have it. I like the Ozz vs Ass play on words. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > WilliamsSW 09/22/2020 at 15:30

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Okay, help me out...

PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:31

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DGRIDOO is good

Spanfeller is a twat > Spanfeller is a twat 09/22/2020 at 15:33

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Voting in the US is just very hard.
Look at this for instance:

America’s population pyramid
Mexico’s population pyramid

Despite our significant underage population we have 89M voters out of 129M peoples, meanwhile the US has 153M voters out of 331M peoples.

Even accounting for a significantly higher immigrant population in the US (which matters because REASONS) the US simply has a much smaller portion of their population registered to vote than Mexico... Remember Mexico was practically a dictatorship until the late 70s and that we’re much poorer. Then why is it that we have nearly 23,000  more voters per 100,000 inhabitants than the US does?

Although we have voter ID’s those aren’t necessary to vote, you can sue the government to let you vote if you couldn’t get one on time, or if it expired. and you don’t need formal proof of citizenship or nationality to get one either...

The way our elections operate might be the only good thing about modern Mexican government, which is why I use it as an example, and it still is restrictive.

I had to give an ID, proof of citizenship, and proof of residence to get my voter ID... which was free, lasts for 10 years, and is useful for other things (it’s a defacto national ID here), yet in Spain I was registered to vote by simply declaring proof of residence and citizenship. I didn’t need an ID, and I was automatically registered to vote abroad by my embassy.

All of this was also free.

I’m not saying that what is happening is somewhat shady, I’m just saying that the systems let the shady thing occur because the systems failed to cater to the needs of the population.

WilliamsSW > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:33

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ie NOT A MALIBU

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen 09/22/2020 at 15:34

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7!

BONZA’s great.

BONZASS probably wouldn’t make it through. =)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Ermahgerd! 09/22/2020 at 15:38

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Nice ones! BATHRST would be sweet, only if one other dude got it.

Mount Panorama!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 09/22/2020 at 15:39

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Nice! But only 7, so DRPBEAR? Hmm... might be read derp...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 09/22/2020 at 15:40

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Haha - thanks.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > WilliamsSW 09/22/2020 at 15:41

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Ah, yes. Good one!

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > Ermahgerd! 09/22/2020 at 15:42

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Don’t forget C*NT!

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > WilliamsSW 09/22/2020 at 15:43

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There’s one I’ve seen that says MALIBU

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Spanfeller is a twat 09/22/2020 at 15:50

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I definitely agree that voting should be incredibly easy, while still making voters confident that each person only gets one vote . I’d like them to make it a national holiday.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:51

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Shoot, y ou can do 8 here. I agree, DRPBEAR doesn’t work well for obvious reasons.

REDBACK ? Seems fitting for a red car.

On the animal theme

KKABUR A

TYLCINE

WilliamsSW > WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI 09/22/2020 at 15:54

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I like that, although that prevents the owner of a nice classic Chevelle from getting it. 

Spanfeller is a twat > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:57

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It’s not very hard, especially given how much money the US spends on elections. It’s just that most countries prefer having national elections rather than numerous internal ones that add up to a single result that then is manipulated to represent an adjustment that maybe is misleading to the concept of democratic voting.

Nonetheless,
Clearly, it’s strange that this could happen and in Mexico it would probably be considered illegal to give money or help in a lawsuit in exchange for a vote, however... getting registered to vote here isn’t as hard as in the US.

and I’m not saying our laws are perfect; voting from abroad as a Mexican is very complicated, those jailed and imprisoned cant vote, and we don’t have voting by mail either.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 15:57

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Considering hundreds of millions of dollars are shunted annually via funding coalitions at all levels of elected government to essentially buy votes (via campaigns ,) at least this attempt is out in the open where people can see it.

Really the whole funding election thing needs to be rethought from the ground up, but since the people who get elected are the ones who are good at the current system, there’s no incentive to change it. 

stuckMTB > Spanfeller is a twat 09/22/2020 at 16:01

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You also have to consider the LONG history of southern states taking away voting rights of black people and other minorities. This is just the latest episode in a very long series of actions and reactions .

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 16:04

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also... V8 M8?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 09/22/2020 at 16:10

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KKABURA’s good. TYLCINE?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 09/22/2020 at 16:11

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U WOT?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 09/22/2020 at 16:12

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All bets are off after Citizens United.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 09/22/2020 at 16:12

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All bets are off after Citizens United.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > stuckMTB 09/22/2020 at 16:13

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Very good point - who knows how many of these people were actually guilty of their crime in the first place?

Textured Soy Protein > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 16:13

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The reason the paying the fines is even a thing is due to republican ratfuckery.

Florida voters voted to give felons the right to vote. Florida republican legislature then passed a new law saying they couldn’t vote unless they pay outstanding fees.

It’s a bullshit racist poll tax meant to disenfranchise people who by virtue of being poor and minorities might be more inclined to vote against republicans.

So basically, fuck those ratfucking fuckers. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Spanfeller is a twat 09/22/2020 at 16:25

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One person’s take (the US is not a democracy) :

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/413142-the-united-states-is-not-a-democracy-and-it-wasnt-meant-to-be-one

The Rs are definitely of the opinion that more voters overall helps the Ds.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Textured Soy Protein 09/22/2020 at 16:27

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Tell me how you really feel.

I agree that the lead up to this is also basically criminal.

CivicWagonEngineer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 16:28

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Fair enough, definitely a subjective matter. It just feels like to me that people do it to be unique and then it’s a matter of if everyone has it, no one does. Enough ranting from me, congrats on the SS!

Nick Has an Exocet > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 16:31

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I assume we’re talking about Bloomberg. He’s a dirtbag. There are so many dirtbags, particularly New York & Chicago dirtbags, that I’m not sure we’re ever going to be rid of them.

I’m actually paying close attention to ballot measures in this upcoming election. Some of the shit being proposed (and yes, shit is the proper term) is downright insane. CA proposing a tax that sticks with you for 10 years after leaving is probably both unconstitutional and a violation of the interstate commerce act .

I need to go through all of the states, but CA has some real duesies inlcuding an odd change to the voting age in CA to try and offset older folks . They also want statewide rent control (there is almost no evidence that rent control works). 

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Textured Soy Protein 09/22/2020 at 16:32

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This.

All of this.

RallyWrench > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 16:35

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I see you’ve mentioned Citizens United elsewhere already . That, basically. Vote buying is legal now, and everything is worse because of it.

More l icense ideas, my brain sucks : AUSYRLZ, V8SPRCR, BATHRST, HSV8, OZCHEVY, WIZRDOZ, SHANE-O ( obscure reference   ), ‘ MERICOZ... I need to stop.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 16:36

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Tasmanian Tiger. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thylacine

Thinking about it again though it’s a pretty meh plate.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CivicWagonEngineer 09/22/2020 at 16:36

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Yeah, it’s a good point, but the lion is so dope!

I have a BFA in graphic design, so...

My bird IS the word > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 16:37

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I have still not heard a satisfying answer on why felons should vote at all.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 09/22/2020 at 16:38

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T SMANIA (or TZMANIA) is good, though!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > RallyWrench 09/22/2020 at 16:39

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Please, go on...

WIZRDOZ!! Yes!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > RallyWrench 09/22/2020 at 16:40

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SHANE-O is hilarious.

Spanfeller is a twat > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 16:40

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I understand that the US was meant to be a representative r epublic or whatever, but the elections for President are not   advertised to voters as 50 state referendums on who the 50 state governments should vote (with a number of votes assigned both by population and by mere existence) to become president. It’s a bit misleading. Since you’re literally not  electing the Presidents. and states should have all the power except when they don’t (See Bush v. ) 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > My bird IS the word 09/22/2020 at 16:41

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I don’t know, if you’ve paid your debt to society, (most) everyone deserves a second chance.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Spanfeller is a twat 09/22/2020 at 16:46

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Not advertised? If someone doesn’t know how our system works, that’s on them. I know my vote (at the national level) is basically worthless, fwiw.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 16:48

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The best plate possible would be,  MALIBU

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 09/22/2020 at 16:53

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Would get some lulz, for sure.

Spanfeller is a twat > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 17:05

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I understand that some minimal research might show people how things are actually, but that doesn’t make it right. The government and it’s members shouldn’t act in a way that almost purposely distracts people from how things actually are. It’s like saying Mcdonalds was OK to sell LFTB because the burden of research and proving they were misleading had to fall on the consumer.

Tapas > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 17:05

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I’d say that the GOP knows they won’t get votes from felons because many of them are people of color. The Dems know this and want felons to vote.

I believe felons should be able to vote after their sentence, because they’ve paid their debt to society. But of course, this is also political.

Florida had a ballot measure during the 2018 elections that passed with 65% majority and allowed felons ( except those convicted of murder or sexual abuse) to vote after completing their sentences .

The Florida’s GOP govt. didn’t like this, so they enacted legislature SB7066 that required ex- felons to pay off fines and fees before they can vote. This is a form on poll tax, which is unconstitutional according to the 14th a mendment.

The GOP govt then defended this legislature in Eleventh circuit court of appeals using tax payer money to keep this poll tax.

Talk about defying the will of voters to hold on to power.

Here’s a bit of history on poll tax, according to wikipedia.

Payment of a poll tax was a prerequisite to the registration for voting in a number of states until 1965. The tax emerged in some states of the United States in the late nineteenth century as part of the Jim Crow laws. After the right to vote was extended to all races by the enactment of the Fifteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, a number of states enacted poll tax laws as a device for restricting voting rights. The laws often included a grandfather clause, which allowed any adult male whose father or grandfather had voted in a specific year prior to the abolition of slavery to vote without paying the tax.  These laws, along with unfairly implemented literacy tests and extra-legal intimidation, achieved the desired effect of disenfranchising African-American and Native American voters, as well as poor whites.

duurtlang > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/22/2020 at 17:06

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Thank you for the graph.

In my native the Netherlands you don’t need to register to vote. If you are eligible (age, citizenship) you simply get the appropriate paperwork in the mail. No action required. You show your ID at the voting booth to prevent fraud , and you can vote.